Who else should leave with Wolfowitz?

Comments from readers before our site shifted to WordPress are re-posted below. Alex

Knowing what I know of these people, yes, they will retaliate. And don’t forget Paul’s ‘f-word’ threat, or the threat of one of Paul’s defenders, who said the Banksters would ‘taste ashes before this is over.’ If those aren’t threats, what are? The writing on that wall ought to be read.

Cleveland, Folsom, Palacio and Jackson are absolute must-gos. I am a bit of a dissident on Daboub, I can’t take my eyes off the guy’s record of success in El Salvador, and I will be honest about this: being antiabortion in the third world is often a mainstream position to have, it’s not a jerry falwell thing, it’s a mainstream point of view in poor countries even if it’s not your view. I need to understand more about what he did wrong, not from an ideological point of view but from a rules point of view – and weigh that against the guy’s success in the wartorn hellhole that once was El Salvador. I can’t take my eyes off people who really do produce success in poor countries by doing things that work and he did that. The other thing is, I know he and wolf didn’t particularly like each other, wolf was always prochoice as are most people at the bank.

But a housecleaning must be done of cronies, of that i am sure. I am not sure how it can be done and i wish i knew. Maybe bank staff can ostracize them and go on strike against them in some way, i don’t know. these aren’t the people who give up paychecks easily – after all, they aren’t worth them in any other line of work they might seek.

The other person i expecially want out is shaha riza – if she can’t be given the boot, she needs her salary cut back to size, too, and even that is too much. I don’t know how they are gonna do that, does anyone have theories? I hope the investigations continue apace about her saic conflicts of interest and they can get her on that.

none ~ May 20, 2007, 06:58 PM

If the objective is to restore the credibility of the WB’s mandate, the new Prez should be a recongnized and competent figure, able to “give” his/her political capital to the WB. No gray figures nor incompetents, please. Then, to restore the credibility of the WB’s governance Daboub, Palacio, INT lady, Clevelan, EXT VP, Riza, and all other cronies should be offered a package within the WB rules. If they saty, the WB is just not credible. And the package cannot be too generous, otherwise again the credibility of the instituton would suffer. Finally, Alison Cave should return to be a “union leader” (can she?), because her figure now rose to “shadow prez”, and that’s bad for the governence as well.

My 2 cents ~ May 20, 2007, 07:00 PM

Riza should be fired on her saic conflicts of interest. The WB management should fire her on that, working for a DOD it’s more than enough.

Riza must go ~ May 20, 2007, 07:04 PM

Folsom will continue to leak stories to that Bret Stephens idiot, who will then go on to tout himself as an ‘ace investigative reporter’ and ‘persistent dirt digger’ as well as get himself on the lecture circuit from it. It might not be by administrative action but by this sort of Folsom leaking that will be the payback. Folsom should be prosecuted for her leaking and absolutely be the first one thrown out.

anon ~ May 20, 2007, 07:05 PM

For “none”: Daboub is plain incompetent. Everybody who has worked with him or traveled with him knows that. He is an embarassment. And the “El Salavdors” success story is not of his making, come on. If you understand development you know that. Finally, Daboub is a crony, nobody would trust him. In short. He is incompetent and is lacking staff’s trust. He must go (the same logic applies to Palacio).

Fire Daboub ~ May 20, 2007, 07:07 PM

How is he incompetent – my question is sincere.

none ~ May 20, 2007, 07:12 PM

First, PW should leave. He’s like that 1970s SNL skit with John Belushi “The Thing that Wouldn’t Leave!”.

The 30 June Crony Conga Line out of the Bank will be led by PW, trailed by “…no one mistakes me for Christmas” Cleveland, da Boub, Folsom, Jackson, Palacios, with Riza cha-cha-ing at the tail. [That’s in alpha order, and not an attempt to discriminate against Ms. Riza because she’s an Arab woman.]

I, for one, will leave a trail of rose petals in their disasterous wake.

Still wearing my blue ribbon.

dorothy (we’re not in kansas anymore, toto) ~ May 20, 2007, 07:14 PM

There are certain individuals who are brought on at senior levels with nearly zero background in Economic Development or Bank experience.

e.g., Suzanne Rich Folsom, Robin Cleveland, Ana Palacio.

These individuals are so closely identified with the Wolfowitz regime that it would be extremely difficult to justify their existence without PW around.

Moreover, it is also clear that these individuals committed actions / offenses that are in violation of Bank rules. For example, Palacio who published / signed a political letter in the IHT this past week without clearing it with the Bank, or her barging in on a Board meeting where she is not welcome, Cleveland with her participation in the Wolfowitz scandal including producing a document to the ad hoc Group that is almost certainly forged, and finally, Folsom for her use of INT information and resources for the Wolfowitz F*&^ campaign.

Similarly, the junior staff that these people in turn hired with no experience or a resume that is inconsistent with their published responsibilities should go through an objective, fair staff evaluation and see how they perform, and then, be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.

However, it is extremely important that those who are indeed guilty of material Bank rule violations, such as Cleveland and Palacio, be given a fair hearing and due process. In all likelihood, under such circumstances, they will probably leave the Bank before a finding of guilt is issued.

It is also vitally important that those who was elevated by PW NOT be automatically be regarded as suspect, and they be given a fair opportunity to prove themselves (unless they are otherwise guilty of breaches of Bank rules) to the next administration.

The evil of PW is he politicized an organization to a far greater degree than before. While politics can never be expunged in a multilateral organization, professional staff and subject matter experts have to be protected. Under such circumstances, a wholesale campaign against Wolfowitz cronies right to the junior staff level may harm the bank more than having those who are at least somewhat capable, remain behind.

Whatever happens, it is vitally important for the new, incoming President to do a housecleaning within 3 to 4 weeks of their initial appointment. The housecleaning will include removing both cronies and people whom the President do not wish to remain in place for whatever reason. It would appear that there are some people who in their zeal for the anti-Wolfowitz campaign, broke Bank rules. PW and cronies are not the only ones guilty of extremism. Where appropriate, those people should also be disciplined.

Finally, the problem of SR. This is perhaps the tackiest one of all. It is flatly clear that her contract was obtained against Bank rules.

While it is patently unfair to leave her arrangements untouched, to alter the arrangement is also difficult. Perhaps the most fair way would be to ‘buy out’ her contract with a significant one time payment, but with the understanding that she resign.

In any event, the secondment, future raises and promotions that was arranged contrary to Bank rules have to be rescinded. There is no choice for the incoming administration as it would undermine Bank rules and morale if the arrangements were allowed to remain unchanged.

If SR elects to refuse a buyout, then it will be more than fair to open an INT investigation into her activities, including with SAIC, include her recent release of Board documents (her statement) in violation of Bank rules. If she chooses to remain, she will have to let the chips fall where they may. The chips may fall on a termination with cause for breach of her contract with the Bank. It is flatly clear that her unfounded allegations of discrimination that have been publicized have damaged the Bank.

Handling the post-Wolfowitz era properly is a daunting task.

I hope the President to be is up to it.

PS If I were a PW crony or appointed by a PW crony, I would hand in my resignation to the new President as a matter of course, and see if it is accepted. I would not stay in a ‘hostile work environment’.

None ~ May 20, 2007, 07:24 PM

First one who has to go is Folsom. She’s been threatening so many people. Her idea of ethical behavior is that you have to do things her way. And if you don’t, you become a target. Anti-corruption efforts by the Bank will remain a joke even with Wolfowitz gone, as long as Folsom is there ignoring wrongdoing by her cronies and investigating those she disagrees with.

Next to go has to be Riza. Not just because of the big raise, but because of her conflict of interest during her trip to Iraq. Surely she broke Bank rules. And someday the truth about her being “approved for promotion” will come out. Everyone knows that not only didn’t she get shortlisted, she was even approved for membership in the Comnet.

Third – Palacio. Can’t have legal counsel that you can’t trust. Fourth – Cleveland. She could be marginalized, but that’s a very high salary for someone sharpening pencils. And finally, Daboub. He’s free to have his opinions, and even to try and change policy, but it has to be above-board and transparent.

Bankette ~ May 20, 2007, 07:28 PM

Suzanne was hired under the Wolfensohn presidency as emmissary to Capitol Hill once the GOP took over the House and Senate. She stayed after he left and suddenly found herself amongst the annointed.

She needs to go.

Robin stated quite clearly in her testimony to the Ad Hoc group that she was there only for so long as PW and the only reason she accepted an open-ended contract was because a 5 year term wasn’t possible. So if she hasn’t written her own resignation letter effective as of 30 June she’s even more of a slimy weasel than she has shown herself to be.

She needs to go.

Palacios has proven herself nothing a hack. Her, too.

Is old man Jackson still around at all? If so, he goes.

Here’s an idea, offer Daboub the country manager job in Outer Dirkadirkastan. Bye bye.

Don’t Cry For Me, Shaha Riza. Her arrogance and narcissism is the root cause of the vehicle that led to this entire mess. Those People were bound to be hung by their own petard eventually, TCS was just accelerating the process. Zero sympathy for her. And no, being A Muslim Woman who speaks out blah blah blah has nothing to do with your previous inability to get to grade H – promotion IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT. For you, or for anyone else. Your actions and your statements offend the struggle of women who are really facing difficulty in advancing their careers due only to their gender. And you ain’t one of them.

To all of this fun bunch, I offer up a collective, hearty, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Joe Mama ~ May 20, 2007, 07:55 PM

Every one who came with Wolfowitz and are part of his “coalition of the scheming” should start finding other career opportunities. Dabou(b)isson back to El Salvador ARENA and his opusdei cilice. Suzanne Rich “Folsom Prison” should go help some Republican candidate perfect his platform on “justifiable torture”. Ana Palacio go help the Partido Popular to get back to power and take some refresher courses of Etica y Procedimiento Penal. Cleveland is packing and Riza is taking some anger management therapy paid by the World Bank health plan.

At any rate, the new President will make the changes in due course. The lessons learned from the experience in the Current Situation will hopefully prevent the repetition of the abuses of the two Wolfowitz’s years.

Farewell Wolfie Cubs ~ May 20, 2007, 10:12 PM

I was reading up on Suzanne Rich Folsom – I think she’s going to be hard to dislodge. She came in 2003 and was a crony-in-waiting well before Paul. I don’t know how they can get rid of her, she’d be hard to prosecute seeing that she controls all the prosecutors. The only way to really get rid of her is to get her on some previous job violation in the nonworldbank sector or if the Board can see if some special prosecutor type can be hired. She’s a lawyer, so it won’t be easy, she knows all the legal rathole escapes.

none ~ May 20, 2007, 10:51 PM

Folsom can be handled in a very efficient manner.

Transfer her to be CD for Iraq.

Let her refuse the transfer…

What she can be charged with, is inaction on wrongdoing by the cronies like PW, Robin, etc. while she went forwarded with other petty cases.

The fact is, she maliciously persecuted so many people that regardless of what happens, she is going to be tripped up somewhere, somehow.

Being head of INT is never a job that makes friends and influence people easily, but the way she did it will engender a response like the body (aka Bank) fighting off a cancer.

The antibodies are out for her.

BTW there are two ‘none’ on this thread, they are different people.

None ~ May 20, 2007, 11:05 PM

Shaha can go work with her Riza boyfriend, Ana can go back to her Spanish Palacio, Robin can go to Cleveland, Suzanne can go march in the elephant brigade, Da-Boob can go back to El Salvador, and PW can go to Helliburton!

Bye bye ~ May 21, 2007, 12:30 AM

there are few “co-tail” VPs were promoted during PW’s reign by the cronies as well, wonder what will happen to them….

claire ~ May 21, 2007, 01:23 AM

Somebody in the Bank need to be reading this: this is a project that the Bank did not finance, but if it did, it would have had a great impact on the lives of a lot of people.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/world/africa/20lights.html?em&ex=1179892800&en=453b5910fcaf159c&ei=5087

May 20, 2007
Solar Flashlight Lets Africa’s Sun Deliver the Luxury of Light to the Poorest Villages
By WILL CONNORS and RALPH BLUMENTHAL

FUGNIDO, Ethiopia — At 10 p.m. in a sweltering refugee camp here in western Ethiopia, a group of foreigners was making its way past thatch-roofed huts when a tall, rail-thin man approached a silver-haired American and took hold of his hands.

The man, a Sudanese refugee, announced that his wife had just given birth, and the boy would be honored with the visitor’s name. After several awkward translation attempts of “Mark Bent,” it was settled. “Mar,” he said, will grow up hearing stories of his namesake, the man who handed out flashlights powered by the sun.

Since August 2005, when visits to an Eritrean village prompted him to research global access to artificial light, Mr. Bent, 49, a former foreign service officer and Houston oilman, has spent $250,000 to develop and manufacture a solar-powered flashlight.

His invention gives up to seven hours of light on a daily solar recharge and can last nearly three years between replacements of three AA batteries costing 80 cents.

Over the last year, he said, he and corporate benefactors like Exxon Mobil have donated 10,500 flashlights to United Nations refugee camps and African aid charities.

Another 10,000 have been provided through a sales program, and 10,000 more have just arrived in Houston awaiting distribution by his company, SunNight Solar.

“I find it hard sometimes to explain the scope of the problems in these camps with no light,” Mr. Bent said. “If you’re an environmentalist you think about it in terms of discarded batteries and coal and wood burning and kerosene smoke; if you’re a feminist you think of it in terms of security for women and preventing sexual abuse and violence; if you’re an educator you think about it in terms of helping children and adults study at night.”

Here at Fugnido, at one of six camps housing more than 21,000 refugees 550 miles west of Addis Ababa, the Ethiopian capital, Peter Gatkuoth, a Sudanese refugee, wrote on “the importance of Solor.”

“In case of thief, we open our solor and the thief ran away,” he wrote. “If there is a sick person at night we will took him with the solor to health center.”

A shurta, or guard, who called himself just John, said, “I used the light to scare away wild animals.” Others said lights were hung above school desks for children and adults to study after the day’s work.

Mr. Bent’s efforts have drawn praise from the United Nations, Africare, Rice University and others.

Kevin G. Lowther, Southern Africa director for Africare, the largest American aid group for Africa, said his staff was sending 5,000 of his lights, purchased by Exxon Mobil at $10 each, to rural Angola.

Dave Gardner, a spokesman for Exxon Mobil, said the company’s $50,000 donation in November grew out of an earlier grant it made to Save the Children to build six public schools in Kibala, Angola, a remote area of Kwanza Sul Province.

“At a dedication ceremony for the first four schools in June 2006,” Mr. Gardner said in an e-mail message, “we noticed that a lot of the children had upper respiratory problems, part of which is likely due to the use of wood, charcoal, candles and kero for lighting in the small homes they have in Kibala.”

The Awty International School, a large prep school in Houston, has sent hundreds of the flashlights to schools it sponsors in Haiti, Cameroon and Ethiopia, said Chantal Duke, executive assistant to the head of school.

“In places where there is absolutely no electricity or running water, having light at night is a luxury many families don’t have and never did and which we take for granted in developed countries,” Ms. Duke said by e-mail. Mr. Bent, a former Marine and Navy pilot, served under diplomatic titles in volatile countries like Angola, Bosnia, Nigeria and Somalia in the early 1990s.

In 2001 he went to work as the general manager of an oil exploration team off the coast of the Red Sea in Eritrea, for a company later acquired by the French oil giant Perenco. But the oil business, he said, “didn’t satisfy my soul.”

The inspiration for the flashlight hit him, he said, while working for Perenco in Asmara, Eritrea. One Sunday he visited a local dump to watch scavenging by baboons and birds of prey, and came upon a group of homeless boys who had adopted the dump as their home.

They took him home to a rural village where he noticed that many people had nothing to light their homes, schools and clinics at night.

With a little research, he discovered that close to two billion people around the world go without affordable access to light.

He worked with researchers, engineers and manufacturers, he said, at the Department of Energy, several American universities, and even NASA before finding a factory in China to produce a durable, cost-effective solar-powered flashlight whose shape was inspired by his wife’s shampoo bottle.

The light, or sun torch, has a narrow solar panel on one side that charges the batteries, which can last between 750 and 1,000 nights, and uses the more efficient light-emitting diodes, or L.E.D.s, to cast its light. “L.E.D.s used to be very expensive,” Mr. Bent said. “But in the last 18 months they’ve become cheaper, so distributing them on a widespread scale is possible.”

The flashlights usually sell for about $19.95 in American stores, but he has established a BoGo — for Buy One, Give One — program on his Web site, BoGoLight.com, where if you buy one flashlight for $25, he will buy and ship another one to Africa, and donate $1 to one of the aid groups he works with.

Mr. Bent, who is now an oil consultant, lives in Houston with his wife and four young children. When he is not in the air flying his own plane, he is often on the road.

Traveling early this month in Ethiopia’s border area with Sudan, Mr. Bent stopped in each town’s market to methodically check the prices and quality of flashlights and batteries imported from China.

He unscrewed the flashlights one by one, inspecting the batteries, pronouncing them “terrible — they won’t last two nights.”

On his last day along the border, Mr. Bent visited Rapan Sadeeq, 21, a Sudanese refugee who is something of a celebrity in his camp, Bonga, for his rudimentary self-made radios, walkie-talkies and periscopes.

The two men huddled in the hut, discussing what parts would be needed to power the radio with solar panels instead of clunky C batteries. “Oh, I can definitely send you some parts,” Mr. Bent said. “You can be my field engineer in Ethiopia.”

Will Connors reported from Fugnido, Ethiopia, and Ralph Blumenthal from Houston.

None ~ May 21, 2007, 01:03 PM

Cleveland must go. Same with Daboub. Palacio too. But I think that going after the investigation office could backfire and feed into claims that the Bank is corrupt and taking advantage of weakness to get rid of oversight mechanisms. Plus, I don’t know of anyone that Folsom has targeted or threatened. I have the misfortune to be aware of a couple of recent investigations that INT did — one a project and the other a staff member — and both were totally justified. Most of us may be clean, but the Bank is not immune from bad behavior. Let’s not give ammunition to those who would say we’re all complicit with the kleptocrats.

Cleaning ~ May 21, 2007, 02:39 PM

Wow, what venemous spewings. Oh dear. Looks like some Staff members don’t like those nasty Americans investigating them, and wish to retaliate by recommending (as if they have that sort of power) the termination of management for the pure fact that they are:

a. Americans;
b. Might be connected to PW; and
c. Do their jobs.

This is pathetic. Cleaning has it correct. When the rest us, being the non-coffee drinking minions of 18th Street, see this, we view it as a by-product of institutional corruption, one where staff is asking that investigators get the axe so they can accept pay-offs in exchange for contract rigging in peace. We also see it as the wildly anti-American ranting of the fascist lunatic fringe that hate American generally, and normal Americans in particular. It borders on the xenophobic, with the added insult that comes from people who simultaneously enjoy the benefits of working in the United States.

The new President will be an American, folks. That’s a fact, your protestations notwithstanding. If you dream he will utilize these crackpot suggestions in determining who will stay and who will go, you are due for a very rude awakening.

DC Worker ~ May 21, 2007, 04:52 PM

Dizzy,
It is not about the rest of the world against the americans.
You probably know that, if not I suggest you review the research on paliperidona.

americano ~ May 21, 2007, 06:56 PM

DC Troll, relax. Deep, cleansing breaths.

You are making the same mistake as PW, in tarring people who disliked the way INT did its work and the way he chose to go after corruption, as corrupt themselves. You, like he, are wrong. It’s not that WB staff don’t want INT, and don’t want to fight corruption within and outside the Bank. What we don’t want is the horrid way in which PW and Rich, Fulsome Suzanne have approached it. That has nothing to do with nationality.

Joe Mama ~ May 21, 2007, 08:05 PM

Joe: Example where INT did its work in a “horrid way”? Specifics, please. Not suggesting you’re corrupt. It’s just that since you point out that people dislike the way INT does its work, I’d like to know what the nub of the issue is. Again: be specific. Extra points if you can name countries.

Example ~ May 21, 2007, 08:47 PM

Dirty: Really? You could have fooled me. By the look of the rantings on this Board, that’s precisely what this is starting to look like.

Snow Job Joe: Deep breaths? Are you kidding? By the look of things, it appears that INT did their job if they have the Bank Staff this leary of their presence. They are SUPPOSED to be watching you, investigating you, making certain that the nasty little habit of staff to accept bribes in exchange for rigged contracts and turning a blind eye to half finished work is sanctioned and stopped. That’s their job. As is stands, and by what I have seen, this Board is nothing more than a rather crude attempt at character assassination for the end result that accepting bribes and lining one’s own pocket can continue without those nasty INT folks looking into every deal. This is the lunatics trying to run the proverbial asylum.

Do they really want an active INT in my opinion? No, they want a hands-off INT, a wink and a nudge while they line their own pockets.

So wake up.

DC Worker ~ May 21, 2007, 09:27 PM

DC Worker, I hope you’re not blogging on Guvmint time down at the Blue Plains Treatment facility, because that would be, erh, unethical, wouldn’t it?

LovetheHaters ~ May 22, 2007, 01:17 AM

This is one of the best pieces I’ve read on PW’s behavior at the Pentagon and how he replicated it through his obscenely overpaid appointees at the World Bank.

http://r7fel.wordpress.com/2007/05/20/world-bank-scandal/

The Mahdi ~ May 22, 2007, 01:35 AM

Since I haven’t yet seen any news that the Harpy Cronies have been fired, and having last night again watched the spooky movie “The Serpent and the Rainbow”, I’ve decided to help move things along by taking locks of each of their chinny-chin-chin hairs with me on a trip to Haiti….keep watching.

Gitemoutnow ~ May 22, 2007, 01:52 AM

Lovethehaters: It’s all for the public’s good. I fail to see how your commentary can be taken too seriously, BTW, given the level of Bank Staff traffic on this site during normal working hours.

But then again, they have shown a remarkable ability to demand the height of ethical behavior from others while conveniently leaving themselves free from such annoying considerations.

DC Worker ~ May 22, 2007, 05:59 AM

DC Worker,
a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding in order to cause confrontation.

Is commenting here your full time job? (What does DC stands for?)

Curious DC Supervisor ~ May 22, 2007, 08:12 PM

DC is actually short for D&C.

Dilation (dilatation) and Curettage for those who are not familiar.

If you have to do that all day at work, you would be sticking up posts on any board that doesn’t lock its doors like D&C.

Twit ~ May 22, 2007, 08:27 PM

While a hypocrite is defined as he who engages in behavior to which he professes to despise.

I am so sorry if you find my audacity at actually disagreeing with positions on this Board as “confrontational.” It’s what we call “debate.”

DC Worker ~ May 22, 2007, 08:31 PM

Curious: For trolling, look at Twit’s little rampage.

Adios.

DC Worker ~ May 22, 2007, 08:33 PM

Debate is fine, but your style of “debate” seems a little aggresive in the use of namecalling, imputing motives to people, blanket statements and throwing tantrums. There is substance in many things you argue but you seem to enjoy playing the contrarian “bad boy”. At the end you seem to spoil everybody’s fun and end up being the only one left in the discussion.
Adios and Salut!

Curious DC Supervisor ~ May 23, 2007, 01:15 AM

CDS: Oh my, you mean I dare disagree with your fun?

Why, yes, I do on a very fundamntal basis. For starters, I think the WB should be eliminated. For additional thought, I think the United States should not sully itself by contributing to an organization that enriches staffers and dictators. If forced to provide the lions share of finances, the United States should name the President of the organization. The reason is rather simple – I don’t trust someone who is not an American to spend my money (contributed in taxes) wisely. I do support an active anti-corruption outfit, and I find the Staff comments on this site, backstabbing co-workers and supervisors, to be not only fundamentally unethical, but also whining. Thus, a “tantrum” if you will. Thus, I find this site neither “fun” nor mature.

If you choose to debate me (which is doubtful), in a grown up manner, you must prepare yourself for the awful experience of debating with someone who actually (gasp) might disagree with you. While I realize that the Leftist herd mentality has permeated societies throughout the planet, I am not part of that herd. I think entirely for myself. Thus, and shockingly, maybe (perhaps) you will actually learn something.

Slan agus beannacht leat

DC Worker ~ May 23, 2007, 02:49 AM

Sin sin, níl aon scéal eile agam
Go mbíodh biseach ort gan mhoill

Síochán leat

Curious DC Supervisor ~ May 23, 2007, 04:33 AM

Of the whole Wolfowitz pizza

The only one who will remain
At the end of this long game,

Will be the lovely Shaha Riza

Shahaha Riza ~ May 23, 2007, 04:12 PM

Haven’t they fired the neoconcubine yet?

If they don’t clear those Cronies out soon, it will have become apparent that the PeeWee culture of corruption has triumphed over his grave, as it were.

The Mahdi ~ May 24, 2007, 04:57 AM

One thought on “Who else should leave with Wolfowitz?”

Alex Wilks on May 30, 2007 at 11:35 said:

Comments from readers before our site shifted to WordPress are re-posted below. Alex

Knowing what I know of these people, yes, they will retaliate. And don’t forget Paul’s ‘f-word’ threat, or the threat of one of Paul’s defenders, who said the Banksters would ‘taste ashes before this is over.’ If those aren’t threats, what are? The writing on that wall ought to be read.

Cleveland, Folsom, Palacio and Jackson are absolute must-gos. I am a bit of a dissident on Daboub, I can’t take my eyes off the guy’s record of success in El Salvador, and I will be honest about this: being antiabortion in the third world is often a mainstream position to have, it’s not a jerry falwell thing, it’s a mainstream point of view in poor countries even if it’s not your view. I need to understand more about what he did wrong, not from an ideological point of view but from a rules point of view – and weigh that against the guy’s success in the wartorn hellhole that once was El Salvador. I can’t take my eyes off people who really do produce success in poor countries by doing things that work and he did that. The other thing is, I know he and wolf didn’t particularly like each other, wolf was always prochoice as are most people at the bank.

But a housecleaning must be done of cronies, of that i am sure. I am not sure how it can be done and i wish i knew. Maybe bank staff can ostracize them and go on strike against them in some way, i don’t know. these aren’t the people who give up paychecks easily – after all, they aren’t worth them in any other line of work they might seek.

The other person i expecially want out is shaha riza – if she can’t be given the boot, she needs her salary cut back to size, too, and even that is too much. I don’t know how they are gonna do that, does anyone have theories? I hope the investigations continue apace about her saic conflicts of interest and they can get her on that.

none ~ May 20, 2007, 06:58 PM

If the objective is to restore the credibility of the WB’s mandate, the new Prez should be a recongnized and competent figure, able to “give” his/her political capital to the WB. No gray figures nor incompetents, please. Then, to restore the credibility of the WB’s governance Daboub, Palacio, INT lady, Clevelan, EXT VP, Riza, and all other cronies should be offered a package within the WB rules. If they saty, the WB is just not credible. And the package cannot be too generous, otherwise again the credibility of the instituton would suffer. Finally, Alison Cave should return to be a “union leader” (can she?), because her figure now rose to “shadow prez”, and that’s bad for the governence as well.

My 2 cents ~ May 20, 2007, 07:00 PM

Riza should be fired on her saic conflicts of interest. The WB management should fire her on that, working for a DOD it’s more than enough.

Riza must go ~ May 20, 2007, 07:04 PM

Folsom will continue to leak stories to that Bret Stephens idiot, who will then go on to tout himself as an ‘ace investigative reporter’ and ‘persistent dirt digger’ as well as get himself on the lecture circuit from it. It might not be by administrative action but by this sort of Folsom leaking that will be the payback. Folsom should be prosecuted for her leaking and absolutely be the first one thrown out.

anon ~ May 20, 2007, 07:05 PM

For “none”: Daboub is plain incompetent. Everybody who has worked with him or traveled with him knows that. He is an embarassment. And the “El Salavdors” success story is not of his making, come on. If you understand development you know that. Finally, Daboub is a crony, nobody would trust him. In short. He is incompetent and is lacking staff’s trust. He must go (the same logic applies to Palacio).

Fire Daboub ~ May 20, 2007, 07:07 PM

How is he incompetent – my question is sincere.

none ~ May 20, 2007, 07:12 PM

First, PW should leave. He’s like that 1970s SNL skit with John Belushi “The Thing that Wouldn’t Leave!”.

The 30 June Crony Conga Line out of the Bank will be led by PW, trailed by “…no one mistakes me for Christmas” Cleveland, da Boub, Folsom, Jackson, Palacios, with Riza cha-cha-ing at the tail. [That’s in alpha order, and not an attempt to discriminate against Ms. Riza because she’s an Arab woman.]

I, for one, will leave a trail of rose petals in their disasterous wake.

Still wearing my blue ribbon.

dorothy (we’re not in kansas anymore, toto) ~ May 20, 2007, 07:14 PM

There are certain individuals who are brought on at senior levels with nearly zero background in Economic Development or Bank experience.

e.g., Suzanne Rich Folsom, Robin Cleveland, Ana Palacio.

These individuals are so closely identified with the Wolfowitz regime that it would be extremely difficult to justify their existence without PW around.

Moreover, it is also clear that these individuals committed actions / offenses that are in violation of Bank rules. For example, Palacio who published / signed a political letter in the IHT this past week without clearing it with the Bank, or her barging in on a Board meeting where she is not welcome, Cleveland with her participation in the Wolfowitz scandal including producing a document to the ad hoc Group that is almost certainly forged, and finally, Folsom for her use of INT information and resources for the Wolfowitz F*&^ campaign.

Similarly, the junior staff that these people in turn hired with no experience or a resume that is inconsistent with their published responsibilities should go through an objective, fair staff evaluation and see how they perform, and then, be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.

However, it is extremely important that those who are indeed guilty of material Bank rule violations, such as Cleveland and Palacio, be given a fair hearing and due process. In all likelihood, under such circumstances, they will probably leave the Bank before a finding of guilt is issued.

It is also vitally important that those who was elevated by PW NOT be automatically be regarded as suspect, and they be given a fair opportunity to prove themselves (unless they are otherwise guilty of breaches of Bank rules) to the next administration.

The evil of PW is he politicized an organization to a far greater degree than before. While politics can never be expunged in a multilateral organization, professional staff and subject matter experts have to be protected. Under such circumstances, a wholesale campaign against Wolfowitz cronies right to the junior staff level may harm the bank more than having those who are at least somewhat capable, remain behind.

Whatever happens, it is vitally important for the new, incoming President to do a housecleaning within 3 to 4 weeks of their initial appointment. The housecleaning will include removing both cronies and people whom the President do not wish to remain in place for whatever reason. It would appear that there are some people who in their zeal for the anti-Wolfowitz campaign, broke Bank rules. PW and cronies are not the only ones guilty of extremism. Where appropriate, those people should also be disciplined.

Finally, the problem of SR. This is perhaps the tackiest one of all. It is flatly clear that her contract was obtained against Bank rules.

While it is patently unfair to leave her arrangements untouched, to alter the arrangement is also difficult. Perhaps the most fair way would be to ‘buy out’ her contract with a significant one time payment, but with the understanding that she resign.

In any event, the secondment, future raises and promotions that was arranged contrary to Bank rules have to be rescinded. There is no choice for the incoming administration as it would undermine Bank rules and morale if the arrangements were allowed to remain unchanged.

If SR elects to refuse a buyout, then it will be more than fair to open an INT investigation into her activities, including with SAIC, include her recent release of Board documents (her statement) in violation of Bank rules. If she chooses to remain, she will have to let the chips fall where they may. The chips may fall on a termination with cause for breach of her contract with the Bank. It is flatly clear that her unfounded allegations of discrimination that have been publicized have damaged the Bank.

Handling the post-Wolfowitz era properly is a daunting task.

I hope the President to be is up to it.

PS If I were a PW crony or appointed by a PW crony, I would hand in my resignation to the new President as a matter of course, and see if it is accepted. I would not stay in a ‘hostile work environment’.

None ~ May 20, 2007, 07:24 PM

First one who has to go is Folsom. She’s been threatening so many people. Her idea of ethical behavior is that you have to do things her way. And if you don’t, you become a target. Anti-corruption efforts by the Bank will remain a joke even with Wolfowitz gone, as long as Folsom is there ignoring wrongdoing by her cronies and investigating those she disagrees with.

Next to go has to be Riza. Not just because of the big raise, but because of her conflict of interest during her trip to Iraq. Surely she broke Bank rules. And someday the truth about her being “approved for promotion” will come out. Everyone knows that not only didn’t she get shortlisted, she was even approved for membership in the Comnet.

Third – Palacio. Can’t have legal counsel that you can’t trust. Fourth – Cleveland. She could be marginalized, but that’s a very high salary for someone sharpening pencils. And finally, Daboub. He’s free to have his opinions, and even to try and change policy, but it has to be above-board and transparent.

Bankette ~ May 20, 2007, 07:28 PM

Suzanne was hired under the Wolfensohn presidency as emmissary to Capitol Hill once the GOP took over the House and Senate. She stayed after he left and suddenly found herself amongst the annointed.

She needs to go.

Robin stated quite clearly in her testimony to the Ad Hoc group that she was there only for so long as PW and the only reason she accepted an open-ended contract was because a 5 year term wasn’t possible. So if she hasn’t written her own resignation letter effective as of 30 June she’s even more of a slimy weasel than she has shown herself to be.

She needs to go.

Palacios has proven herself nothing a hack. Her, too.

Is old man Jackson still around at all? If so, he goes.

Here’s an idea, offer Daboub the country manager job in Outer Dirkadirkastan. Bye bye.

Don’t Cry For Me, Shaha Riza. Her arrogance and narcissism is the root cause of the vehicle that led to this entire mess. Those People were bound to be hung by their own petard eventually, TCS was just accelerating the process. Zero sympathy for her. And no, being A Muslim Woman who speaks out blah blah blah has nothing to do with your previous inability to get to grade H – promotion IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT. For you, or for anyone else. Your actions and your statements offend the struggle of women who are really facing difficulty in advancing their careers due only to their gender. And you ain’t one of them.

To all of this fun bunch, I offer up a collective, hearty, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Joe Mama ~ May 20, 2007, 07:55 PM

Every one who came with Wolfowitz and are part of his “coalition of the scheming” should start finding other career opportunities. Dabou(b)isson back to El Salvador ARENA and his opusdei cilice. Suzanne Rich “Folsom Prison” should go help some Republican candidate perfect his platform on “justifiable torture”. Ana Palacio go help the Partido Popular to get back to power and take some refresher courses of Etica y Procedimiento Penal. Cleveland is packing and Riza is taking some anger management therapy paid by the World Bank health plan.

At any rate, the new President will make the changes in due course. The lessons learned from the experience in the Current Situation will hopefully prevent the repetition of the abuses of the two Wolfowitz’s years.

Farewell Wolfie Cubs ~ May 20, 2007, 10:12 PM

I was reading up on Suzanne Rich Folsom – I think she’s going to be hard to dislodge. She came in 2003 and was a crony-in-waiting well before Paul. I don’t know how they can get rid of her, she’d be hard to prosecute seeing that she controls all the prosecutors. The only way to really get rid of her is to get her on some previous job violation in the nonworldbank sector or if the Board can see if some special prosecutor type can be hired. She’s a lawyer, so it won’t be easy, she knows all the legal rathole escapes.

none ~ May 20, 2007, 10:51 PM

Folsom can be handled in a very efficient manner.

Transfer her to be CD for Iraq.

Let her refuse the transfer…

What she can be charged with, is inaction on wrongdoing by the cronies like PW, Robin, etc. while she went forwarded with other petty cases.

The fact is, she maliciously persecuted so many people that regardless of what happens, she is going to be tripped up somewhere, somehow.

Being head of INT is never a job that makes friends and influence people easily, but the way she did it will engender a response like the body (aka Bank) fighting off a cancer.

The antibodies are out for her.

BTW there are two ‘none’ on this thread, they are different people.

None ~ May 20, 2007, 11:05 PM

Shaha can go work with her Riza boyfriend, Ana can go back to her Spanish Palacio, Robin can go to Cleveland, Suzanne can go march in the elephant brigade, Da-Boob can go back to El Salvador, and PW can go to Helliburton!

Bye bye ~ May 21, 2007, 12:30 AM

there are few “co-tail” VPs were promoted during PW’s reign by the cronies as well, wonder what will happen to them….

claire ~ May 21, 2007, 01:23 AM

Somebody in the Bank need to be reading this: this is a project that the Bank did not finance, but if it did, it would have had a great impact on the lives of a lot of people.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/world/africa/20lights.html?em&ex=1179892800&en=453b5910fcaf159c&ei=5087

May 20, 2007
Solar Flashlight Lets Africa’s Sun Deliver the Luxury of Light to the Poorest Villages
By WILL CONNORS and RALPH BLUMENTHAL

FUGNIDO, Ethiopia — At 10 p.m. in a sweltering refugee camp here in western Ethiopia, a group of foreigners was making its way past thatch-roofed huts when a tall, rail-thin man approached a silver-haired American and took hold of his hands.

The man, a Sudanese refugee, announced that his wife had just given birth, and the boy would be honored with the visitor’s name. After several awkward translation attempts of “Mark Bent,” it was settled. “Mar,” he said, will grow up hearing stories of his namesake, the man who handed out flashlights powered by the sun.

Since August 2005, when visits to an Eritrean village prompted him to research global access to artificial light, Mr. Bent, 49, a former foreign service officer and Houston oilman, has spent $250,000 to develop and manufacture a solar-powered flashlight.

His invention gives up to seven hours of light on a daily solar recharge and can last nearly three years between replacements of three AA batteries costing 80 cents.

Over the last year, he said, he and corporate benefactors like Exxon Mobil have donated 10,500 flashlights to United Nations refugee camps and African aid charities.

Another 10,000 have been provided through a sales program, and 10,000 more have just arrived in Houston awaiting distribution by his company, SunNight Solar.

“I find it hard sometimes to explain the scope of the problems in these camps with no light,” Mr. Bent said. “If you’re an environmentalist you think about it in terms of discarded batteries and coal and wood burning and kerosene smoke; if you’re a feminist you think of it in terms of security for women and preventing sexual abuse and violence; if you’re an educator you think about it in terms of helping children and adults study at night.”

Here at Fugnido, at one of six camps housing more than 21,000 refugees 550 miles west of Addis Ababa, the Ethiopian capital, Peter Gatkuoth, a Sudanese refugee, wrote on “the importance of Solor.”

“In case of thief, we open our solor and the thief ran away,” he wrote. “If there is a sick person at night we will took him with the solor to health center.”

A shurta, or guard, who called himself just John, said, “I used the light to scare away wild animals.” Others said lights were hung above school desks for children and adults to study after the day’s work.

Mr. Bent’s efforts have drawn praise from the United Nations, Africare, Rice University and others.

Kevin G. Lowther, Southern Africa director for Africare, the largest American aid group for Africa, said his staff was sending 5,000 of his lights, purchased by Exxon Mobil at $10 each, to rural Angola.

Dave Gardner, a spokesman for Exxon Mobil, said the company’s $50,000 donation in November grew out of an earlier grant it made to Save the Children to build six public schools in Kibala, Angola, a remote area of Kwanza Sul Province.

“At a dedication ceremony for the first four schools in June 2006,” Mr. Gardner said in an e-mail message, “we noticed that a lot of the children had upper respiratory problems, part of which is likely due to the use of wood, charcoal, candles and kero for lighting in the small homes they have in Kibala.”

The Awty International School, a large prep school in Houston, has sent hundreds of the flashlights to schools it sponsors in Haiti, Cameroon and Ethiopia, said Chantal Duke, executive assistant to the head of school.

“In places where there is absolutely no electricity or running water, having light at night is a luxury many families don’t have and never did and which we take for granted in developed countries,” Ms. Duke said by e-mail. Mr. Bent, a former Marine and Navy pilot, served under diplomatic titles in volatile countries like Angola, Bosnia, Nigeria and Somalia in the early 1990s.

In 2001 he went to work as the general manager of an oil exploration team off the coast of the Red Sea in Eritrea, for a company later acquired by the French oil giant Perenco. But the oil business, he said, “didn’t satisfy my soul.”

The inspiration for the flashlight hit him, he said, while working for Perenco in Asmara, Eritrea. One Sunday he visited a local dump to watch scavenging by baboons and birds of prey, and came upon a group of homeless boys who had adopted the dump as their home.

They took him home to a rural village where he noticed that many people had nothing to light their homes, schools and clinics at night.

With a little research, he discovered that close to two billion people around the world go without affordable access to light.

He worked with researchers, engineers and manufacturers, he said, at the Department of Energy, several American universities, and even NASA before finding a factory in China to produce a durable, cost-effective solar-powered flashlight whose shape was inspired by his wife’s shampoo bottle.

The light, or sun torch, has a narrow solar panel on one side that charges the batteries, which can last between 750 and 1,000 nights, and uses the more efficient light-emitting diodes, or L.E.D.s, to cast its light. “L.E.D.s used to be very expensive,” Mr. Bent said. “But in the last 18 months they’ve become cheaper, so distributing them on a widespread scale is possible.”

The flashlights usually sell for about $19.95 in American stores, but he has established a BoGo — for Buy One, Give One — program on his Web site, BoGoLight.com, where if you buy one flashlight for $25, he will buy and ship another one to Africa, and donate $1 to one of the aid groups he works with.

Mr. Bent, who is now an oil consultant, lives in Houston with his wife and four young children. When he is not in the air flying his own plane, he is often on the road.

Traveling early this month in Ethiopia’s border area with Sudan, Mr. Bent stopped in each town’s market to methodically check the prices and quality of flashlights and batteries imported from China.

He unscrewed the flashlights one by one, inspecting the batteries, pronouncing them “terrible — they won’t last two nights.”

On his last day along the border, Mr. Bent visited Rapan Sadeeq, 21, a Sudanese refugee who is something of a celebrity in his camp, Bonga, for his rudimentary self-made radios, walkie-talkies and periscopes.

The two men huddled in the hut, discussing what parts would be needed to power the radio with solar panels instead of clunky C batteries. “Oh, I can definitely send you some parts,” Mr. Bent said. “You can be my field engineer in Ethiopia.”

Will Connors reported from Fugnido, Ethiopia, and Ralph Blumenthal from Houston.

None ~ May 21, 2007, 01:03 PM

Cleveland must go. Same with Daboub. Palacio too. But I think that going after the investigation office could backfire and feed into claims that the Bank is corrupt and taking advantage of weakness to get rid of oversight mechanisms. Plus, I don’t know of anyone that Folsom has targeted or threatened. I have the misfortune to be aware of a couple of recent investigations that INT did — one a project and the other a staff member — and both were totally justified. Most of us may be clean, but the Bank is not immune from bad behavior. Let’s not give ammunition to those who would say we’re all complicit with the kleptocrats.

Cleaning ~ May 21, 2007, 02:39 PM

Wow, what venemous spewings. Oh dear. Looks like some Staff members don’t like those nasty Americans investigating them, and wish to retaliate by recommending (as if they have that sort of power) the termination of management for the pure fact that they are:

a. Americans;
b. Might be connected to PW; and
c. Do their jobs.

This is pathetic. Cleaning has it correct. When the rest us, being the non-coffee drinking minions of 18th Street, see this, we view it as a by-product of institutional corruption, one where staff is asking that investigators get the axe so they can accept pay-offs in exchange for contract rigging in peace. We also see it as the wildly anti-American ranting of the fascist lunatic fringe that hate American generally, and normal Americans in particular. It borders on the xenophobic, with the added insult that comes from people who simultaneously enjoy the benefits of working in the United States.

The new President will be an American, folks. That’s a fact, your protestations notwithstanding. If you dream he will utilize these crackpot suggestions in determining who will stay and who will go, you are due for a very rude awakening.

DC Worker ~ May 21, 2007, 04:52 PM

Dizzy,
It is not about the rest of the world against the americans.
You probably know that, if not I suggest you review the research on paliperidona.

americano ~ May 21, 2007, 06:56 PM

DC Troll, relax. Deep, cleansing breaths.

You are making the same mistake as PW, in tarring people who disliked the way INT did its work and the way he chose to go after corruption, as corrupt themselves. You, like he, are wrong. It’s not that WB staff don’t want INT, and don’t want to fight corruption within and outside the Bank. What we don’t want is the horrid way in which PW and Rich, Fulsome Suzanne have approached it. That has nothing to do with nationality.

Joe Mama ~ May 21, 2007, 08:05 PM

Joe: Example where INT did its work in a “horrid way”? Specifics, please. Not suggesting you’re corrupt. It’s just that since you point out that people dislike the way INT does its work, I’d like to know what the nub of the issue is. Again: be specific. Extra points if you can name countries.

Example ~ May 21, 2007, 08:47 PM

Dirty: Really? You could have fooled me. By the look of the rantings on this Board, that’s precisely what this is starting to look like.

Snow Job Joe: Deep breaths? Are you kidding? By the look of things, it appears that INT did their job if they have the Bank Staff this leary of their presence. They are SUPPOSED to be watching you, investigating you, making certain that the nasty little habit of staff to accept bribes in exchange for rigged contracts and turning a blind eye to half finished work is sanctioned and stopped. That’s their job. As is stands, and by what I have seen, this Board is nothing more than a rather crude attempt at character assassination for the end result that accepting bribes and lining one’s own pocket can continue without those nasty INT folks looking into every deal. This is the lunatics trying to run the proverbial asylum.

Do they really want an active INT in my opinion? No, they want a hands-off INT, a wink and a nudge while they line their own pockets.

So wake up.

DC Worker ~ May 21, 2007, 09:27 PM

DC Worker, I hope you’re not blogging on Guvmint time down at the Blue Plains Treatment facility, because that would be, erh, unethical, wouldn’t it?

LovetheHaters ~ May 22, 2007, 01:17 AM

This is one of the best pieces I’ve read on PW’s behavior at the Pentagon and how he replicated it through his obscenely overpaid appointees at the World Bank.

http://r7fel.wordpress.com/2007/05/20/world-bank-scandal/

The Mahdi ~ May 22, 2007, 01:35 AM

Since I haven’t yet seen any news that the Harpy Cronies have been fired, and having last night again watched the spooky movie “The Serpent and the Rainbow”, I’ve decided to help move things along by taking locks of each of their chinny-chin-chin hairs with me on a trip to Haiti….keep watching.

Gitemoutnow ~ May 22, 2007, 01:52 AM

Lovethehaters: It’s all for the public’s good. I fail to see how your commentary can be taken too seriously, BTW, given the level of Bank Staff traffic on this site during normal working hours.

But then again, they have shown a remarkable ability to demand the height of ethical behavior from others while conveniently leaving themselves free from such annoying considerations.

DC Worker ~ May 22, 2007, 05:59 AM

DC Worker,
a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding in order to cause confrontation.

Is commenting here your full time job? (What does DC stands for?)

Curious DC Supervisor ~ May 22, 2007, 08:12 PM

DC is actually short for D&C.

Dilation (dilatation) and Curettage for those who are not familiar.

If you have to do that all day at work, you would be sticking up posts on any board that doesn’t lock its doors like D&C.

Twit ~ May 22, 2007, 08:27 PM

While a hypocrite is defined as he who engages in behavior to which he professes to despise.

I am so sorry if you find my audacity at actually disagreeing with positions on this Board as “confrontational.” It’s what we call “debate.”

DC Worker ~ May 22, 2007, 08:31 PM

Curious: For trolling, look at Twit’s little rampage.

Adios.

DC Worker ~ May 22, 2007, 08:33 PM

Debate is fine, but your style of “debate” seems a little aggresive in the use of namecalling, imputing motives to people, blanket statements and throwing tantrums. There is substance in many things you argue but you seem to enjoy playing the contrarian “bad boy”. At the end you seem to spoil everybody’s fun and end up being the only one left in the discussion.
Adios and Salut!

Curious DC Supervisor ~ May 23, 2007, 01:15 AM

CDS: Oh my, you mean I dare disagree with your fun?

Why, yes, I do on a very fundamntal basis. For starters, I think the WB should be eliminated. For additional thought, I think the United States should not sully itself by contributing to an organization that enriches staffers and dictators. If forced to provide the lions share of finances, the United States should name the President of the organization. The reason is rather simple – I don’t trust someone who is not an American to spend my money (contributed in taxes) wisely. I do support an active anti-corruption outfit, and I find the Staff comments on this site, backstabbing co-workers and supervisors, to be not only fundamentally unethical, but also whining. Thus, a “tantrum” if you will. Thus, I find this site neither “fun” nor mature.

If you choose to debate me (which is doubtful), in a grown up manner, you must prepare yourself for the awful experience of debating with someone who actually (gasp) might disagree with you. While I realize that the Leftist herd mentality has permeated societies throughout the planet, I am not part of that herd. I think entirely for myself. Thus, and shockingly, maybe (perhaps) you will actually learn something.

Slan agus beannacht leat

DC Worker ~ May 23, 2007, 02:49 AM

Sin sin, níl aon scéal eile agam
Go mbíodh biseach ort gan mhoill

Síochán leat

Curious DC Supervisor ~ May 23, 2007, 04:33 AM

Of the whole Wolfowitz pizza

The only one who will remain
At the end of this long game,

Will be the lovely Shaha Riza

Shahaha Riza ~ May 23, 2007, 04:12 PM

Haven’t they fired the neoconcubine yet?

If they don’t clear those Cronies out soon, it will have become apparent that the PeeWee culture of corruption has triumphed over his grave, as it were.

The Mahdi ~ May 24, 2007, 04:57 AM

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